Saturn Crank No-Start + MORE! (Indy Trip - Day 5)

Objavljeno 22. apr. 2021
Heading back East to PA with the '79 Yamaha XS750 in tow!
We have three more cars to look at on the way back:
-'98 Saturn Crank No-Start
-'06 Nissan Titan ABS
-'08 Cadillac SRX Catalyst efficiency codes
Enjoy!
Ivan

Komentarjev

  • I may or may not know about a way to turn the CEL off for cat inefficiency in the SRX. Ivan, let me know if interested.

  • B-T-W Rainbow’s have only one side visibility ( “down-sun”).

  • I had a GMC Jimmy with 4.3 and the EGR was always getting carbon nuggets in it. I used to take it apart and clean it. I discovered I could put it in 1st and accelerate then let off and that would clear the clog.

  • Saturn owner: "I swear to you the fish was this big!" 😁

  • I noticed the MAF reading on the Cadillac was 1.27 g/s with the engine off, something going on there. I think that's the least of the problems with the Christmas tree lights on in the dash. The Saturn is a 98 model year with 96/97 model year wheels and it has the metal camshaft cover(91-95 model years) not the black plastic one(96-02 model years), funny the things I notice🤣. The P1624 is from the cruise control switch being turned on/off about three times. The PCM takes a "snapshot" of some of the engine sensors if you have an intermittent problem that is hard to diagnose. Kind of like a flight recorder as some people call it. The S-series were prone to bad ECT sensors as well. The sensor would crack and allow coolant to get in the connector causing corrosion. It makes the fuel mixture go haywire. I see the ECT and IAT readings were pretty much the same before running the engine so it probably is ok for right now though.

    • Good catch on the Saturn. That's my car... the plastic cam cover warped and was leaking oil. The ECT was replaced within the last year. It is working properly.

  • Is it true that on new GM's if you get a cat code it's very important to look at the cold start-up

  • I have a 2000 Saturn and a computer module is mounted on the engine, and the ground for the module is very sensitive, and I had to run a separate ground to a better ground source.

  • This car starts up fine. Then, why is it in the shop?

  • For a minute, I thought that the motorcycle was a trailer tailgating. Fortunately, It’s safe in tow.

  • 👍

  • Ahem. I happen to like Ohio.

  • A very nice repairs trip 👍👍

  • The map voltage at idle is wrong....in gear 1.50 volts max....you had 2.50 to 2.95 volts....while you were driving you had 4.75 volts...max is 5.0 volts.....low engine vacuum...cracked map vacuum hose...ect..ect...it started hard because it was flooded.....trims were correcting for over fueling from map voltage.....

  • Head to the rainbow for yer pot o gold laddie..he he hee😆

  • My dash is a Christmas tree also. In Ohio, just keep on drivin'.

  • Ivan it’s nice to see their are still people in this country like yourself that will take the time to help other people. Lately that is rate and I commend you for that. Yes I’m sure you get paid but you are still devoting your time to help others. I’m not a motorcycle fan but am still looking forward to the repair videos on your new toy. You and wife stay well and safe Artie 👍😊

  • THIS CAR, IT'S A CHRISTMAS TREE, LMAO. But Ivan, I always have lights out on my tree ?

  • flooring it while starting is flood mode. it basically cuts the fuel injectors so that it can let any gas out. That would explain the excessive smoke. Any kind of leaky fuel (in the injector) means they need to be cleaned. i had a similar issue on a 3800 series II, the MAF was broke, I ended up doing a parts Canon and after unplugging the maf it started finally! all that for that...

  • I enjoyed it .Thank you..

  • i had a 1995 sc2 do the same thing, just cranked and cranked, finally i gave it some gas and it fired, it just was flooded, and i tried 2 days to get it running and it only has 110k miles

  • i have two 1995 sc1 saturns, one has 264k and the other has 330k miles, my favorite cheap car hands down

  • A spark plug de-fouler on Earth Day ??? Say it isn't so.😁

  • When you coming to texas?

  • Glad everything went well for you. Take Care Richard's "Mobile" Auto and Air

  • Wonder if he’s going through cats because of the leaking purge solenoid.

  • Thank you PHAD for more great diagnostic videos. Thumbs up

  • On the Saturn you need to pull the vacuum line off the fuel pressure regulator and check for gasoline leakage. If it leaks just a little bit it will result in a flooded engine when it sits for a while. Each time you try to start it the fuel pressure is restored and the flooded condition remains if it doesn't start. A good check for a leaking regulator is to plug the vacuum line and see how much change you get in the fuel trims.

  • some cars run rich when fuel tank is filled lol, that purge solenoid can be a pain and also, some cars hesitate and even shut off when the vent solenoid does not seal during a purge command lol. All have their symptoms but we all get used to it.

  • I am telling Ivan those Saturns are possessed! LOL

  • On that saturn I would have looked at the coolant temp sensor. The original ones were made of bakelite and would crack and tell the PCM the wrong temperature and the engine would flood and most would corrode the connector as well. The new sensors, released around the year 2000, are made of brass and Don't crack but would still get screwy from time to time. And to test them the air temp and trans temp sensors are all the same part and can be swapped in a pinch.

  • Glad you made it home ok Ivan. Good series. Good luck with the bike.

  • Always entertaining, and learn something too

  • Loved those Saturns. Missed my 92SL2 with the modified turbo

  • Do you ever fix anything? Still all guessing

  • Fun series Ivan, thanks for taking us along!

  • Thanks for the vids on the road trip Ivan. Next time I get a crank no start, I'm calling you. LOL !

  • Glad you had great trip ama got to see several places! I wondered how it go with the cats, defouler and purge? Fun filled diags! Haha. Enjoyed the series! Many thumbs up!

  • Did you pass Sarah on your trip?

  • Ivan the car whisperer 😝. GM turns into a kristmas 🌲 tree after it gets a few years old Cadillac quality. Thats a. GMC. The C. stands for crap

  • The one that surprised me the most was the Cadillac. Garbage! They sure don’t make them like they used to.

  • As soon as Ivan stepped in the room, the Saturn knew it was no match lmao.

  • Fuel Filter is plugged.

  • Use to have problems with temp sensor by back of cylinder head. Very thin gauge wires go to it. Saturn

  • Ivan...AKA King Midas.

  • **wait a minute, on second thought, didn't they have a fuel filter/pressure regulator combo around that year, maybe it stuck open and had low fuel pressure, then started working again or too high now or even fuel pump going bad and filled the filter/regulator with junk? I remember something goofy with them around that year, maybe I'm thinking wrong vehicle lol *** there was also tons of bad coolant temp sensors and plug corrosion on all gm platforms from back then. they often act intermittent and goofy, especially after driving in rain/salt/high humidity overnight.

  • On the Saturn, replace the Fuel Pump relay, and while there replace the rest of the common relays.

  • I'd guess bad gas and it had a big gulp of water-alcohol in the lines and injectors. then again a Saturn that age, who knows what other issues are lurking lol

  • One common problem with the Saturn engine was a poor connection at the coolant temp sensor. This would cause hard starting and rich running problems. A poor connection would make the temp read cooler than it actually was. The problem was so common that many aftermarket coolant temp sensors came with a new pigtail connector for the sensor also. The problem was sometimes intermittent so you had to wiggle the connection with the engine running to find it.

  • Thanks for taking us along this road trip!

  • First car it seems like the engine was flooded. You used to fix that by choke off, push the accelerator to the floor, and lots of cranking. (From memory - it's been awhile.). When it started it ran very roughly and there was lots of smoke with unburnt fuel. In these computer controlled cars many are programmed to see the full accelerator at crank as a 'flooded' signal and respond by injecting a much reduced fuel volume. They can become flooded by two very short trips when cold (eg, in the morning you drive out of the garage, wash the car, then drive back in). The next time you go to start it is flooded. I don't understand why this floods the engine, but I'm now careful to let it idle for a little while.

  • Maybe the Saturn got some bad gas with to much water in it. Sometimes running denatured alcohol in the gasoline cleared up the problem.

  • Glad you are back home Ivan. Very informative and interesting cases. Crazy Weather also along your journey. Thanks again from myself and THE BEAST !

  • Brilliant Ivan, always enjoyable. Thanks mate.

  • Excellent. Thanks Ivan!

  • magic touch

  • I am happy you have your dream motorcycle on the trailer Keep safe so you can make more videos BILL LINY

  • that cady was a piece of junk

  • Loved that fast blinker. Maintenance?

  • Yeah, some cars won't work right after a repair until all the codes are cleared. Simple code readers often aren't enough. Found this a few times on my own cars. Had to have my local mechanic delete the codes, my cheap code reader couldn't handle it.

  • Loved the videos and diags on the trip! Glad you made it back and thanks for sharing with us!

  • Wait...so all Ivan has to do is touch a vehicle now and it's healed? Wow!

    • I think they just wanted to meet Ivan.

    • Pretty much! That’s pretty much what happened in all 3 cases. He’s good. Hope to see him For Super Saturday. If they schedule this year.

    • Yes it is possible, don't wait, book your appointment now for extremely low cost of 99.99, but wait, if you do it in the next 15 minutes, the price is only 49.99 per session.

    • @Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics next you'll make WD out of water.

    • I couldn't believe it either haha

  • The Saturn reminds me of being sick for a couple weeks and when you finally get seen by the doctor everything is fine. 🤣🤣

  • If you take that XS750 on a tour, come up to Michigan. I just got my 81 Kz750 going. I'd take a ride with ya

  • Nice trip Ivan.....

  • Suggestion on your video editing: overlay text on your video instead of cutting to a black text card which is quite jarring.

  • do you take the wife and kids on your trips?

  • Had an 02 Saturn SL1 1.9 dohc in the shop with TPS codes and low rpm/ stalling codes, 105k, original owner. Complaint was stalling then a no start hot. And this is what I'm saying about older OBD 2 systems.. Don't trust codes. Look at data with a grain of salt. Prove what you're seeing on scan data. 2 other shops put new Delco TPS and IAC motors in this thing, based off codes alone. Turns out the car needed a crank sensor which I caught scoping the crank sensor, engine red hot. No signal, no start. After the crank sensor was replaced, the IAC and TPS codes never came back.

  • I didn't fully understand the 02 diagnosis. Should the S1 be oscillating basically 0%-100% and S2 be relatively stable when in closed loop driving?

  • Ok

  • Ok as I said I am home need to stop and go in

  • Nice trip! I enjoyed.

  • All the Saturn apparently needed was for Ivan to "lay hands" on it.

  • Good to know these cars are mostly ok. Better than going to a dealer and getting unneeded work. Really enjoyed the trip!

  • Ivan, what song was that at 0:49? I wanna know!

  • That saturn sounds weird, like it has a intake manifold leak

  • Although two or three perfectly plausible and valid reasons have been posited for the initial Saturn 🪐 issue, I firmly believe that the reason Ivan was able to effectively remove that issue was the following. The Saturn owner or mechanic must have inadvertently let slip the fact that Ivan was going to visit and decided the best course was to give up and fly right immediately before Ivan showed that poor little red car 🚗 who was boss in no uncertain terms. 😂👍🔧🧰

  • On the Nissan you’re supposed to disable the ABS by either pulling a fuse or disconnecting the battery before bleeding the brakes.

    • On later model Infiniti's G37 factory manual wants you to unplug from the ABS module then bleed in a specific pattern to bleed all ABS circuits.

    • And ! Do not step on any sidewalk cracks!

    • I've never done that to my 06 Frontier when flushing the system. Maybe the light came on when the leak started and no one bothered to reset the ABS before Ivan got there.

  • Do you think an "Italian Tune Up" or manifold Seafoam treatment might awaken that lazy catalytic converter? I have witnessed so many cars run poorly because of short, slow driving trips.

  • The question, 98 Dodge ram 1500 5.2 LT 2 wd. Lose of power on hills, Short term trim 3.1 Long term trim -2.3, ? posable plugged cat, please help.

  • Could the Saturn have a temperature related problem? O2 sensor spacers FTW!

  • Ivan I hope you had as much fun as I did watching you. Can cats be cleaned? In Europe they were cleaning Diesel cats with Muriatic acid.

  • Get a junk yard abs module as o have had good luck with used ones for cheap on the caddy

  • Those Saturns were notorious for a cracked cylinder head at around 60000 miles. It was defect in the heads from the factory. Ask me how I know ! LOL

    • Those were the single cam motors, for a few years they would crack in the I believe the #3 cam journal and dump oil into the cooling system. The dual cams didn't do that. I replaced several under warranty back in the day.

  • 4 years on OEM is a bit unusual ??? Plenty of variety on the journey but successful, nevertheless.

  • Why is the fuel trims at a 100? What does that mean? I thought they should be close to 0?

    • Thank you for clarifying that. Does GM just do that?

    • I was wondering the same thing but didn’t want to appear stupid. At 73 I sometimes wonder if my ECU is still functioning according to specs. Glad someone else asked! 👏👍🔧🧰

    • Look up GM Integrator and Block Learn. 128 counts = 0% trim.

  • Glad you made it home safely 👍👍

  • The first two cars were frightened of you ha ha :-D I've had the same effect with electronic devices, they behave themselves untill you give it back to the owner. They usually last 3 to 5 days then stick out there electronic tongue to the owner. There never seems to be enough screen space on your scanner for all the monitors required.

  • Like #262 Thanks for the video!

  • Who's giving you the thumbs down Keith and Eric O LOL

    • The EPA for mentioning the de-fouler in the downstream o2... lol

  • Congratulations on 101 k subs 👍🇺🇸🔔🤪🤪🧐🌈💪

  • glad you had fun .. thankz for taking us along

  • All that travelling and no mask use? I'm out.

    • @sumduma55 Never knew that thank you

    • @Neil Murphy I don't know that there is a hard and fast rule on time. It can vary depending on the exposure you are seeing, humidity and a bunch of other things like your expelling of droplets. For instance, it you are going to the grocery at 3 am and there are only 20 people dispersed in a 189,000 square foot store (~17000 meters) with good ventilation, the time until it is soiled will be different than if you all are standing at the check out lanes at the same time. But if you are running from isle to isle, the physical exertion can cause an increase in your own particulate aerosol and soil the mask yourself. In a medical setting dealing with infectious diseases pre covid, they (your ppe) are typically changed when leaving a patient room so you don't drag an infectious disease to other patient rooms or even the staffing that remains outside. But medical settings generally have good ventilation via the hvac systems by default in anticipation of infectious diseases. And with covid 19 swapping medical systems, isolation rooms have become isolation wards and even entire wings so rules and best practices have changed somewhat there. But here is the thing. Not all ffp2 or n95 masks are equal. They are not all made of the same material with the same processes so different manufacturers might be effective for longer periods of time than others.

    • @sumduma55 Thank you I never knew that the filter gets clogged so every 30 or 60 minutes you need to wear a new ffp2 one .

    • @Neil Murphy they don't do as much much as people think though. The ffp2 or n95 type masks were never rated for infectious pathogens until covid struck and that was largely a better than nothing situation when supplies were short. There is really no official rating but there are best practices guidelines that we can assume a rating from. There have been attempts at infusing fibers used to build the masks with metals that have antiviral properties like copper and silver and even chemicals like citric acid to increase the effectiveness against infectious disease. However, I'm not aware of any officially rated claims associated with that technology or any commercially available products making a claim on that level. They may be out there, I'm just not aware of them. To my knowledge, no mask manufacturers have went through the process of certifying that concept. There is a process of placing a low positive charge on masks that increases their effectiveness similar to charged particle air filtration but I don't know where that research went. However, the ffp3 masks or n99 style are rated for limited exposure to infectious diseases. But there are a lot of caveats to that rating. Care and time restrictions as well as gasket sealing are greatly reduced. In some cases, they revert to no better than the n95 protection. Some countries like Germany mandate a 30 minute break after using them for no more than 75 minutes. And that is in a controlled environment. SCBA and SBA or self contained breathing apparatus and supplied air breathing apparatus and positive air filtration/ventilation systems are typically used when there are known risks in controlled environments though. What a mask is effective at is stopping someone from directly projecting the virus or moisture droplets containing a virus onto someone else. But their design doesn't stop everything. This is because the moisture droplet particle size in human breath can be between 1 and 10 microns (um) and in sick patients, between 0.05 and 10 microns (um). In sick people, the moisture droplet counts increases compared to healthy people. Droplet sizes of 4 microns (um) or larger usually suffer the effects of gravity and settle on a surface shortly after being expelled. However, in low humidity environments, evaporationhas been seen to reduce 6 micron (um) sized particles to 1 micron (um) within 0.24 seconds (less than half a minute). Smaller droplets can remain airborne. This is were good ventilation comes in helpful and why outdoors seem to have less transmission. It's also a contributing factor to higher humidity environments seeing lower transmission, less evaporation so more particles settle instead of remaining airborne. So we think the virus size is 0.06 and 0.14 microns (um) which means there is a lot of room for it to be embedded in airborne droplets. The mask filtration sizes are around 0.3 microns (um) but have an interference weave that somewhat forces particles to collide with filter particles trapping the droplets. The n95 (ffp2) and n99 (ffp3) style masks will catch and filter a lot of this out by the weave pattern design. But there are several flaws in this concept. The masks aren't magical force fields. If the masks become saturated with droplets, it can allow the virus to migrate from one side to the other via moisture trapped within the fibers but in contact with other droplets. To compound this, evaporation can reduce the size of particles allowing them to escape the fibers when air from breathing is passing through the masks. At this point the 6 feet or 2 meters of distance between people is just as effective as the good masks. The cloth masks lose out way earlier. I guess the point I was hoping to convey earlier got lost so I will state it bluntly. If anyone is concerned, do whatever you think you need to do to protect yourself. The virus has real risks that impact some people worse than others. Just don't expect rational people to become irrational over your fears. There are already huge risks in life that people take without questioning. This is just one more of them for many people. It will be a part of life for quite a while so we need to protect the vulnerable and get on with life. Consenting adults can make their own minds up and make free choices in a free society.

    • @Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics Yah normal masks don't do much put I'm sure that the ffp2 one's do work would be my guess

  • Some good pocket money to pay for the gas for the trip! Thanks for taking us along.

  • I think some of these guys just wanna be on TV 😂😂😂

    • @Trey Cook I still charge for one hour minimum, so it works out :) They can't all be hard!

    • @Trey Cook That makes sense. It would get boring...fast.

    • @dos gos Unless I misunderstood you, it is a problem. 'Engaging content' does not consist of showing up to somebody's home to tell them they have no issue. Maybe he gets paid each time, but it seems insulting to his intelligence.

    • Business is repair & TV so no problem.

    • This was going to be my comment, too. It's people like this that will be the reason he stops doing it.

  • Nice job Ivan.

  • What a great series!!! My favorite one is misfire Nissan but love all videos :). Glad you made it safe.

  • Liked the globe compasses till I started taking totus magnets along for the ride they were fine.

  • Thxs

  • Had a Toyota Camry do the same thing as the Saturn. Had a bad coil in the distributor. Replaced it tried to start the car and it would not start. Thought I had got a bad new coil but I checked and had Spark. Still would not fire, like you I pressed the accelerator and it started ran rough for about 20 seconds and cleared up. Has ran fine ever since. I still wonder why it would not start, only thing I can figure it may Have had excess fuel in the cylinder from cranking when the coil was bad??? Remember that scooter uses you as the bumper. My sister who’s an RN calls them a donorcycle

  • Wonder if when the head gasket was replaced, the throttle cable got kinked or pinched and when you stepped on the gas pedal it pulled free?

    • Seemed that the compression was low due to cylinder wash. Maybe the crankcase oil had some fuel in it from running without an O2 sensor and excessive cranking :)